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    So, let's discuss.

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    ADHD is a bunch of bull-hocky that the educated elite came up with as a way to put blame on something other than themselves for the poor quality of education.

    I've always thought that the problem with the system is that they are no longer allowed to dole out corporal punishment. Whenever you have an unruly, disruptive student, you should be able to turn him/her over your knee and paddle some sense back into them. We didn't have any ADHD when I was going through school, and that little ole "board of education" was brought out whenever there was any disruption. Try being on the receiving end of a few paddlings and guess what, it worked. It got their attention. Passing rates were much higher than they are today, and they didn't have to come up with some lame-brained excuse why they couldn't teach Johny anything.

    I just get so pissed off with these educated idiots we have running the school systems nowadays. They need to fire every one of them and start all over.

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    ADHD, thought I believe some kids to actually have... Is totally a huge myth in that large case. Kids are naturally crazy. At a young age I was deterred from alot of my habits by the school mainly creativity because I simply would not listen and had no interest in learning. They said my "head was in the clouds"

    By highschool I've gotten somewhat of an anxiety disorder and I'm not really fond of getting into trouble for really anything, after getting in trouble for bad marks, not doing homework, doing work wrong, and even telling the teacher when being picked on.

    I used to be able to pick out my box of legos and make nearly anything at any given time, no issue. During highschool it took alot of work and thinking, being pushed further into the mainstream of ideals towards GET UNIVERSITY, GET JOB.

    The nice thing about University is that there's a collective of minds that all get together and share ideas, which really reopened my mind to the fact that YES SOCIETY ALLOWS FREE THOUGHT, thank GOD. While I cannot usually come up with unique ideas off hand, I am generally good at making names and generally lack no ideas on things to build in lego.. and of course Minecraft.

    I'm almost 21 years of age, I have 2 years of University in Engineering as well as a certificate signifying I am an apprentice electrician and I know basic wiring practices. I've been unemployed for 2 and a half months only to receive a job selling Magazines to American households over the phone. No ammount of education made this easier for me. Noone in my trade will hire me. Either they have too many, or just cant afford to.
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    Yeah what it all comes down to is doctors like assigning names to problems... some do need medication, but sometimes i think the doctor just makes shit up to make it look like he knows what he's doing. I don't that's a far off conspiracy, but whatever.

    Also with education, people take it less seriously every year, students lost respect for teachers which pisses me off the most.

    Including in college where someone is paying for the courses, and just screws around playing Guild Wars while the lesson is going on then asks me for help after... Yes that really happened.
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    Ziggy, I think your thoughts on the education system are pretty extreme and lucky for you, you have a future teacher right here. I'm a freshman in college working towards a Math major so I can specialize in math education. As a future teacher, your sarcastic comment on the other thread about "Throwing more money at them" was particularly interesting. Do you know how much I'll be making my first year as a teacher? Approximately $28,000 a year. That, of course depends on which state you live in, and I live in the lowest paying state for teachers. However, the average salary for a teacher in ANY state is ridiculously low considering what they do. They basically provide childcare for people while at the same time trying to teach the kids to be better people and gain knowledge.

    I do however agree with the fact that some people take advantage of the system by presenting disabilities but some of those cases are valid.

    I do NOT agree with the idea of corporal punishment. In EVERY experience I've EVER had, that leads to kids going out and doing worse things. There's no need to provide physical (or mental) abuse...All you need to do is learn how to connect with the students. When you listen to them, try to help them, encourage (not discourage) them (in a good way of course) it's a lot easier for the teachers to teach, students to learn, and society to grow into something better than what it is today...

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    I do not agree with corporal punishment either. All you are accomplishing in this case is getting kids to behave out of fear of punishment. I think if parents could instill a sense of respect into their children it would be a far greater situation. My parents, somehow, managed to produce me. I'm well behaved and quiet, teachers always liked me. I have an inquisitive nature. It seems that a lot of parents expect the schools to RAISE their children. In reality, the schools are just their to provide education to children so they can become productive members of society.

    I was thinking about pursuing a PHD and become a professor. Artificial Intelligence is really interesting to me. Anyway, I think if salaries were higher, you could attract higher quality teachers. I know a problem with Universities is salary. They cannot offer enough money to candidates they really like, and they go into the private sector and make 4x more. People are chasing money.

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    actually thats exactly what ive been think for the past few months why should we have to relearn something we are never going to use again in life. for example math problems they only have one answer (no not the ones with two its still one answer) if the continusly put us in a class that doesn't allow us to think out side the box u have to live by there rules or they bring in there fake law yet if u don't follow this fake law you are sent to detention or they try to throw disorderly conduct on you but yet they will never throw you out of school for more than two weeks because the real law comes in and catches them on this saying that it is depriving us of education and either way you, whom is stuck in the middle of all of it get screwed either way you either have to use one answer or go through life trying to find a job because most places out there wont give you one without your high school diploma or even a higher diploma. now im going to saw this when you are on drugs such as hemp, weed, lsd, etc your mind is working at 40% - 90% of its capacity when your sober your brain is only using 10% and the law says that drugs are illegal, why is that smoking cigerates is just as harmful as smoking weed you are still damaging your body and those around you and i would imagine that driving drunk is just as dangerous as taking acid and going out to drive. so why is it ok for our government to decide what drugs are ok for we the people. we are no longer united as a nation or are we free to do what we want. we are just a shitty corperation that buys more than we sell.

    and dont judge my shitty grammer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axon284053 View Post
    now im going to saw this when you are on drugs such as hemp, weed, lsd, etc your mind is working at 40% - 90% of its capacity when your sober your brain is only using 10%
    This is a misnomer.
    snopes.com: Ten Percent of our Brains

    I wouldn't say that drugs make you brain work better or 'more', just different. So you will have thoughts that normally you wouldn't. I make no judgement on them being good, or bad, just different.

    Anyway, the 'reason' drugs are illegal stems from the physical harm they can cause. I know what you're thinking, what about alcohol? Well it should be illegal too under that definition. I am for legalizing drugs of various kinds, part of the whole 'free person' thing. I don't personally do drugs but I don't judge those that do too harshly. Some people deal with them fine and others let them ruin their lives. Same could be said of gambling / world of warcraft.

    we are no longer united as a nation or are we free to do what we want.
    Never have been free to do what we want and the nation has always been divided from the start on things. I think part of what makes the country great is the facility to disagree and debate. I argue that we could be more free, but completely free and you could run into problems. Rape, murder, whatever.

    and dont judge my shitty grammer.
    People will always judge. For me it makes it harder for me to read. I reserve judgment because your ideas seem pretty interesting.

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    well as for the drugs i am saying that when your brain is on drugs it is more active and like you said allows you to think differently. but in a way isnt it more like making your brain like a kid again able to think about everything with an entirly new perspective on things.

    i understand those problems of being completely free but we could be more free than we are know

    i know i just put that last part in so this thread doesnt turn into a thing about grammer

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